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When the young English widow Lilia Herriton takes off on the grand tour and along the way marries a penniless Italian, her in laws are far from amused That the marriage should fail and poor Lilia die tragically are only to be expected But that Lilia should have had a baby and that the baby should be raised as an Italian are matters requiring immediate correction by Philip Herriton, his dour sister Harriet, and their well meaning friend Miss Abbott


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  1. Bionic Jean Bionic Jean says:

    Written in 1905, this was Forster s first novel It is a comedy of manners, and does show signs of his great talent Out of his four best known novels though, this seems by far the weakest I personally think it would have worked better as a novella or even a short story later he did write very good short story collections.The balance of this short novel feels wrong The early descriptions of upper class characters enmeshed in their own culture are really rather dull, and would have benefited f Written in 1905, this was Forster s first novel It is a comedy of manners, and does show signs of his great talent Out of his four best known novels though, this seems by far the weakest I personally think it would have worked better as a novella or even a short story later he did write very good short story collections.The balance of this short novel feels wrong The early descriptions of upper class characters enmeshed in their own culture are really rather dull, and would have benefited from a lighter touch andwit One character in particular, Mrs Herriton, is a very dislikeable matriarch figure, outraged by anything she feels is not correct, and manipulating all around her Surely there is ample scope here for aevident sense of the ridiculous The lengthy descriptions are tedious, and needed judicious editing Additionally the first scenes at the station introduce nearly all the characters at once, which is confusing The plethora of overbearing and unsympathetic female characters, plus rather passive male ones, can probably be attributed to the fact that Forster s early childhood was mostly spent in the company of women He clearly tried to write about what he had observed He set most of the action in Italy, where he had spent a year travelling The fictitious town ofMonterianois apparently very similar to Monterrigioni, in Tuscany But Forster has been criticised for portraying the Italians in a stereotypical way After many pages of build up, the reader feels that inevitably something traumatic has to happen, and is not disappointed Even then though, the important events in the story happen off stage The impression gained is that Forster wasconcerned to contrast the social s than to tell the story itself This reminded me strongly of D.H Lawrence in fact much of this novel has the feel of Lawrence s writing By halfway the novel is much improved, and another very satisfying twist comes at the end It is worth sticking with, I feel, as it does redeem itself


  2. Lisa Lisa says:

    Romance only dies with life I spent some delicious summer hours rereading Forster s first novel, thinking of Europe and its contrasting, yet matching characters, its various climates and cultural reference points The eternal question of how to cope with social environment and human nature remains unhappily unsolved but beautifully illustrated in front of an Italian artistic landscape backdrop, with a cast of English characters struggling with suppressed emotions What is important in life Romance only dies with life I spent some delicious summer hours rereading Forster s first novel, thinking of Europe and its contrasting, yet matching characters, its various climates and cultural reference points The eternal question of how to cope with social environment and human nature remains unhappily unsolved but beautifully illustrated in front of an Italian artistic landscape backdrop, with a cast of English characters struggling with suppressed emotions What is important in life Sensuality and natural instincts, as Lilia seems to think when engaging with an Italian dentist s handsome but uncultured son, Gino Sophistication and belief in art as a means to find purpose and satisfaction Friendship Passion Where angels fear to tread that is life without the gloss of romance to make it look prettier than it is Seen in close up, sexual tension is not glamorous or even particularly exciting, and a m salliance is a marriage too, just like a conventional one, and it comes with the same issues, once the romance has worn off.Sacrifice oneself to convention to satisfy other people Is that the path for angels to treadsecurely Hardly What for To engage in petty unselfishness , as Forster eloquently sums up a life lived for appearances As the sad novel of unfulfilled dreams, unspent passions, unseen art and unlived life comes to a close, I believe I know what to take from it We can t ever rely on somebody or something else to give us meaning If we look for purpose and satisfaction in other people, rather than within ourselves, we will always, always be disappointed For other people don t pursue our happiness, not even when they claim to love us They pursue their own goals, and if we happen to cross their path we may be used as a vehicle on their quest, that s all If we want to be brave angels, walking joyously on the path that leads to an interesting and fulfilling future, we have to look for our own meaning Where angels like to walk


  3. Steven Godin Steven Godin says:

    This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers To view it, click here Some, but not all writers, can suffer with teething troubles on that first novel, E M Forster s 1905 Where Angels Fear to Tread is a prime example It s a valiant effort for a writer in his early days before what would follow, and I can t help but compare this to the delightful novel he wrote only three years later, A Room with a View , which pleasantly surprised me as to just how good it was This, just wasn t in the same league Our Mr Forster pretty much corners the literary market on E Some, but not all writers, can suffer with teething troubles on that first novel, E M Forster s 1905 Where Angels Fear to Tread is a prime example It s a valiant effort for a writer in his early days before what would follow, and I can t help but compare this to the delightful novel he wrote only three years later, A Room with a View , which pleasantly surprised me as to just how good it was This, just wasn t in the same league Our Mr Forster pretty much corners the literary market on English tourists being overwhelmed by the dream of another country, and what happens when that dream clashes against reality Here, that clash ain t pretty What it is, however, is sharp witted, emotional, and sometimes uncomfortable, about what it means to be a tourist, and what it means to put stock in the dream of another place.Bon voyage Lilia , a young unsophisticated widow, is being dropped off at the train station by her in laws the domineering Mommy Dearest Mrs Herriton and her children, Philip and Harriet They are sending her on a trip to serene Italy with the young but trustworthy Caroline Abbott, to escape the droll life in Sawston, England, and prevent her from making a bad love match up Yep, we re back in those days of frilly hats, turned up moustaches and fine porcelain skin with not a blemish in sight Hello, Edwardian era repression You do look awfully uncomfortable in that corset my dear.In Monteriano, Lilia marries the handsome but selfish Italian, Gino Carella but soon finds herself in an unhappy marriage with little personal freedom, and the cultural struggle between England and Italy becomesheated The set up swiftly changes when Lilia s newborn comes into the picture, and the novel turns into what one could describe as an old fashioned custody battle Philip and his sister Harriet set off to Italy to try and save the child from a poor upbringing And the pleasant nature than went prior is gone, turning the novel into aweighty affair The characters havegusto, and appear pained with panic, one in particular is forced into drastic measures that will effect the outcome It doesn t help when Caroline confesses her love for Gino, but there is no walking off into the sunset hand in hand, Forster s horizon is filled with a storm rather than blue skies.E.M Forster is a terrific immersive writer, and it doesn t take much to be drawn into his stories This short novel does contain some gorgeous prose, and it s quick to fall in with his social political commentary, and the well rounded dynamic characters are easy to love or hate Just don t get down on yourself if you end up buying a one way ticket to Tuscany, canceling the ticket, buying the ticket again, and then canceling it again After all, you re only human And there s no one that understands fickle, flawed humanity like E.M Forster So why not a better rating simple, I felt this wasof a writing exercise, where he was wearing trainers and not shiny shoes, the whole novel seemed it was written by a man still trying to figure himself out as a writer Even the best have to start somewhere, right The ending also felt limp, casting a shadow over what when before The idea s were there for sure, and he would only improve, writing eventually in nice polished shoes Worth reading, but lacking certain ingredients that would eventually turn him into one of Britain s finest By the time my morning coffee and croissant comes around, this isn t likely to be lingering in my mind Whereas A Room with View , which was read some time ago, still floats about occasionally


  4. Beverly Beverly says:

    Called a comedy by some reviewers, I don t see that at all It is tragic all the way round There are comic aspects, especially at the beginning and I was as ready to laugh as anyone at the shallow, ignorant British tourist Lilia, falling in love with an Italian who is out of her class and social level The novel is uneven in its mood and I can tell that it is Forster s first He attains greatness in his later works, but here glimmers appear.


  5. Beata Beata says:

    I can t be objective regarding E M Forster Simply love his novels


  6. Duane Duane says:

    I m always amused at the distain the haughty English aristocrat feels toward the average Italian and their incomprehensible ways and their attitude toward life I ve noticed it in several works of English literature and, not being English myself, I don t know if it really exists I hope it is true, I won t have to change my perception of the 19th and early 20th century English I like them that way, their style, their arrogance, if that s the right word, their belief that their way is the right I m always amused at the distain the haughty English aristocrat feels toward the average Italian and their incomprehensible ways and their attitude toward life I ve noticed it in several works of English literature and, not being English myself, I don t know if it really exists I hope it is true, I won t have to change my perception of the 19th and early 20th century English I like them that way, their style, their arrogance, if that s the right word, their belief that their way is the right way and everything else be dammed That s the case in this novel when an upper class English family sees their widowed daughter in law fall for and marry an Italian of unacceptable status Things turn tragic and complicated when she dies in childbirth The English family does not want this child, their blood relative, to be raised Italian, and so the struggle begins This is Forster s first novel but the genius is there, you can feel it in the reading, and it remains one of my favorites of his work


  7. Paul Bryant Paul Bryant says:

    I only realized half way through that E M Forster was 26 when he wrote this which is his first If I d known that I wouldn t have read it, I have a violent prejudice against novelists under 30 It s too early to start In other art forms it s essential to be under 30 the Beatles were in their mid 20s when they did Sgt Pepper, Brian Wilson was 23 and 24 when he created Pet Sounds and Smile, Picasso was churning out brilliant realist works in his mid teens, and not to mention Mozart s unpleasant I only realized half way through that E M Forster was 26 when he wrote this which is his first If I d known that I wouldn t have read it, I have a violent prejudice against novelists under 30 It s too early to start In other art forms it s essential to be under 30 the Beatles were in their mid 20s when they did Sgt Pepper, Brian Wilson was 23 and 24 when he created Pet Sounds and Smile, Picasso was churning out brilliant realist works in his mid teens, and not to mention Mozart s unpleasant precocity, sitting up in his pram and scribbling oratorios onto every available surface but the art of the novel lays bare the author s mind too eloquently, it s farintimate and therefore cruelly revealing than music or painting, your under 30 crassness and callowness will be exposed, you re caught in the fierce headlights forever Perhaps I am harsh let us see what Forster himself said about this novel The story takes place mostly in a small town in Italy called San Gimignano retitled Monteriano here which is a medieval version of Manhattan, very remarkable I went there once It looks like this.An English widow falls in love with a local guy called Gino who probably looked like thisForster said later The tourist may be intelligent, warm hearted and alert, and I think I was that much, but he has to go back every evening to his hotel and he can know very little of the class structure of the country he is visiting My limitations were very grave Fortunately I was unaware of them, and plunged ahead.What s so remarkable here is my own temerity For I placed Gino firmly in his society although I knew nothing about it I guessed at his relatives, his daily life, his habits, his house, and his sketchy conception of housekeeping Young novelists have to make up a lot of stuff, for sure That said, Where Angels Fear to Tread the lurid title was foisted on Foister by the publishers is pretty good Forster has a patented style you think you re reading light frothy social satire but he keeps upsetting his own applecart with acidulous barbs and then the whole thing suddenly swerves into stark horror and goes all to hell It s a very good style This book literally fell apart while I was reading it 1985 paperback, spinal glue dried to powder and it would be far too glib to say as did the story itself so I won t What you have here is a strange case history The MacGuffin in the story is a baby, and I m not sure you should turn a baby into a MacGuffin But it does put under the spotlight the strange ideas humans especially upper class English Edwardian humans had about children The sheer unsentimentality as soon as they re born, turn them over to a nanny When they reach school age, off they go to a boarding school You hardly ever had to bother with your children if you were rich enough It spared you of all those tiresome aspects of child rearing and gave you time for cruising down the Grand Canal and attending fabulous balls and eating ptarmigans brains What Forster seems to want to delineate according to him is the spiritual awakening of his protagonist Philip As in so many novels, I think what he thought he was doing and what he was actually doing were two different things This is a surprisingly bitter tirade about ugly English upper class morality A really good start


  8. Barry Pierce Barry Pierce says:

    I ve decided to revisit Forster I ve never really had a high opinion of his work, but I feel like that may be my problem, not his I first read Where Angels Fear to Tread about four years ago and my original review is presented below god I was so shit at reviews back then why did none of you tell me What I can glean from my second reading of Where Angels Fear to Tread is that I enjoyed itthis time I recall being quite bored with it the first time around but this time my boredom was I ve decided to revisit Forster I ve never really had a high opinion of his work, but I feel like that may be my problem, not his I first read Where Angels Fear to Tread about four years ago and my original review is presented below god I was so shit at reviews back then why did none of you tell me What I can glean from my second reading of Where Angels Fear to Tread is that I enjoyed itthis time I recall being quite bored with it the first time around but this time my boredom was replaced by amusement I also appreciated thefarcical nature of the novel too It brilliantly captures the fin de si cle folly of going on the Grand Tour and the type of people who took such a journey However while I think that Where Angels Fear to Tread is a fun send up of the upper classes and their strive to keep up appearances, I do not think it is anythingthan that.What confuses me about the novel is its tone What exactly was Forster going for There are many moments of light comedy and it could also be called something of a comedy of manners but there are also some truly horrific moments of tragedy To call the book comic would be crass but to call it tragic would be disingenuous There is also the problem of Forster introducing a cast of interesting characters in the first chapter, only to slowly shed them all as the narrative progresses.I don t think I m going to change my rating on this one Last time I gave it two stars because I was bored, this time I am giving it two stars because it just isn t that great of a novel I get what Forster was doing here It s a valiant first attempt But there s a reason why we still discuss Howards End and A Room With A View but not Where Angels Fear to Tread Original review from July 2014 I expectedfrom Forster Well, to be honest, this was his first novel and isn t one that is talked about all that much There s obviously a reason for that Even though this novel is less than 150 pages long, it feels much longer and that s not a good thing It s kinda boring at parts which really doesn t help Eh this novel is just meh as a whole Meh


  9. Chrissie Chrissie says:

    This is my favorite by E.M Forster I gave A Room with a View three stars and A Passage to India four, but this is even better than that A love story that I love, and it is extremely short I don t usually enjoy short novels It is a classic worth being called a classic Forster captures different sorts of people and their respective ways of being We have Harriet who is logical and straight thinking and Miss Caroline Abbott who wavers but recognizes the value of passion..as well as its dange This is my favorite by E.M Forster I gave A Room with a View three stars and A Passage to India four, but this is even better than that A love story that I love, and it is extremely short I don t usually enjoy short novels It is a classic worth being called a classic Forster captures different sorts of people and their respective ways of being We have Harriet who is logical and straight thinking and Miss Caroline Abbott who wavers but recognizes the value of passion..as well as its dangers There is Gino Carella, an Italian that will throw you off your feet and charm you so you only see the stars sparkling in the heaven There is Philip British, class oriented but drawn to the charms of Italy too Forster s characters are tempted and pulled and swayed and at the same time true to themselves I had to marvel how Forster pulled this off in so few pages One reads this for character portrayal and to find out how the love knots will be resolved Who will end up with whom Where and how England or Tuscany, Italy The time setting is the end of the 19th Century Forster captures different cultural tendencies beautifully, accurately, with a light touch and with humor First he made me laugh at British, end of the 19th Century social s peppered with clever observations Then the characters caught me up and pulled me in Finally Forster impressed me with his perception of human character Relationships are not drawn in neat and simple lines, but in knots and tangles..as in, I think, real life It is this tangled mess and how the book concludes that I particularly like I listened to the audiobook narrated by Edward Petherbridge The beginning was almost impossible to decipher If not stubborn you may just throw in the the towel I ll say politely that he didn t destroy what IS a marvelous classic The narration I have given two stars it s OK and not impossible to follow I managed I didn t give up, but it could have been LOTS better I only want accents, exclamations and varied intonations if the author s words remain clear Just my personal point of view though, which may of course differ from others I really enjoyed this book It is close to amazing in its perceptiveness, in its ability to catch a snap shot of how people do sometimes behave and in its humor


  10. Scott Scott says:

    Fools rush in I guess I m a fool I thought E M Forster was easy to read, almost too easy sometimes Delighted with his nearly faultless prose, I read his thin first novel, Where Angels Fear to Tread 1905 , all in one afternoon Forster tells the story of a young English widow who is seduced by her romantic vision of Italy and Italians and yearns to escape her controlling and snobbish in laws in England Her hasty marriage to a member of Italian nobility sets her English relations afluFools rush in I guess I m a fool I thought E M Forster was easy to read, almost too easy sometimes Delighted with his nearly faultless prose, I read his thin first novel, Where Angels Fear to Tread 1905 , all in one afternoon Forster tells the story of a young English widow who is seduced by her romantic vision of Italy and Italians and yearns to escape her controlling and snobbish in laws in England Her hasty marriage to a member of Italian nobility sets her English relations aflutter, leading to all sorts of sadness, disappointment, and eventual tragedy Line by line, the novel is very well written and a pleasure to read, but the tale s superficial chauvinism, scant humor, and rough ending left me with a nasty case of indigestion I couldn t believe a book by one of my favorite authors really could be as nauseating as a quick first read made it out to be So, after dinner, I started slowly reading the book again Not surprisingly, with a careful second reading, I found the book to be muchpalatable still prickly in parts butpalatable.In the afternoon, all of Forster s obvious foreshadowing was lost on me, and I missed much of his dry, understated wit and self deprecating irony The characters seemed sketchy and melodramatic, and the plot seemed to ramble But with a second reading, I found that I really liked Philip, whose disillusionment with false romance and gradual understanding of love and real humanity are at the heart of the story Gino, Lilia, and Miss Abbot were each muchdeftly drawn than I at first realized even Mrs Herriton and Harriet aren t so bad once you get used to them The humor popped out when I took the time to clearly imagine the scenes I was reading And what I had mistaken for a loosely organized, muddled first novel, was really very carefully balanced and symmetrical.So, what did I learn from this book When it comes to E M Forster and I suspect many other authors, too , it really pays to re read and to read slowly Maybe requiring this much attention from the reader is the flaw of a first novel or an overly self conscious novel I ve never before felt compelled to immediately re read any of Forster s other books But it was a rewarding undertaking, and I suppose that from now on, once I finish a book, I ll re read the first chapters, which typically are teeming with important and telling details, before I pass judgment on a book